The Seiko SII NE88 Automatic Chronograph Movement: A Change In The Wind? (Archive) - Quill & Pad (2024)

The Seiko SII NE88 Automatic Chronograph Movement: A Change In The Wind? (Archive)

by Joshua Munchow

There are few horological stories steeped in as much controversy and lore as the tale of 1969 and the first automatic chronograph. Not only do three different brands have a valid claim to being the first to have achieved making the historic complication, but the short-lived happiness of said achievements the very same year, thanks to the introduction of the quartz watch, make the story tragically bittersweet.

The realization of an automatic chronograph was huge for the watchmaking world, but over the following months and years it was more or less overshadowed by quartz technology. So much so that five years later in 1974, practically the last new automatic chronograph movement for the next few decades was released with little fanfare.

That movement, the Valjoux 7750, went on to be one of the most long-lasting and widely used movements for all price levels of watches in the modern era thanks to being the most cost-effective, reliable and easily configurable.

Over the years, the Valjoux 7750 has been released in dozens of configurations making it a true chameleon and nearly cornering the market for affordable mid-range automatic chronographs.

The movement side of the Valjoux 7750

Problem on the horizon

For this reason there is also a problem on the horizon. Now produced by the Swatch Group-owned ETA, what is now known as the ETA Valjoux 7750 and its variants has been included in the current and expanding limitations on parts and ébauches for non-Swatch group brands.

Basically, if you aren’t on their team, you may not be able to buy 7750s in the near future.I do not intend to comment on such proceedings, but this little fact is useful to know because it makes it very clear that the industry is in need of at least another player.

Sellitta with its clone Caliber SW500 is a good example, but as of yet it cannot be made in the volume needed by the industry.

There are brands producing movements, yes, and companies producing chronographs and automatic chronographs, but not at the volume level of ETA and not at the sweet price point of the Valjoux 7750.

The dial side of the Valjoux 7750 movement

The 7750 is a no-nonsense, cam-driven chronograph that is relatively easy to manufacture at scale and a solid choice for a small brand to utilize. With the prospect of having to look elsewhere since the Swatch Group announcement that supply would be reduced and eventually halted, other movement makers have been in the crosshairs for desperate brands.

Enter the brand-new NE88 automatic chronograph movement by SII, Seiko Instruments, Inc. It might just be what the market has been waiting for. Actually, it might be better than they had hoped. But why?

White knight from the east?

That is a question with a complicated answer, and for this nerd writer it is taken from a perspective that Swiss isn’t necessarily better; instead, better is better.

And then we have the somewhat subjective question of what constitutes better. Let’s start with the obvious.

The NE88 is designed to be a possible replacement for the 7750 in general size, function, and, most importantly, cost.According to early reports, the NE88 will be available for approximately the same price as an ETA 7750. And Seiko is likely to be a reliable partner able to deliver high volumes.

That fact alone makes it a safer bet for long-term investment, even if you are hesitant about any perceived quality. A smart manager would not bet a brand’s future on something that has already been clearly stated to soon be unavailable except to the “chosen few.”

Also, the NE88 is available for development without any pre-conditions like long-term contracts or high volume commitments, or a need for the buyer to go through a vetting process; something which I have heard isn’t always the case with certain movement makers.

To help with that development, technical guides with all of the necessary measurements needed when designing around the NE88 movement are already available. While this is not unique to SII, it shows that the maker understands what is expected and needed to try to fight the big dog in the yard.

The Seiko SII NE88 movement

Standout features of the Seiko NE88

The NE88 has some features that really stand out, and a few causing even seasoned collectors and watch nerds take notice.

First off is a classic Seiko feature: a triple-tipped hammer that simultaneously and instantly resets all the subdial counters back to zero. It’s a very clean and effective solution already found on the Seiko 8R28, a higher end column-wheel triple vertical clutch movement utilized in the Ananta and Velatura models.

However, more important and eye-opening is the chronograph activation mechanism: a column wheel. Considered by the industry and collectors alike as a more highly coveted mechanism, thanks to its vertical clutch the column wheel offers a much smoother tactile feel than the harder click of the horizontal cam lever chronograph as used in the 7750.

This by itself makes the NE88 a “nicer” movement to use than the one it seeks to supplant.

Follow up that already rare-for-this-market-segment feature with the addition of a vertical clutch and you have a real winner. A vertical clutch was invented to solve many problems that chronographs face with jumping second hands, excessive wear on the center wheel, and the obviously rudimentary mechanism that sees a wheel “jammed” into another when starting the chronograph.

The NE88 employs a vertical clutch to avoid these issues, which goes toward creating a top-notch chronograph movement. Because a column-wheel chronograph is more complex to produce, more difficult to adjust and virtually impossible to service, it is a mechanism usually reserved for only the best chronographs on the market. So to find it as a standard feature on a reasonably-priced movement hoping to overtake the industry workhorse is a pretty big deal.

A pretty big deal

Actually, the whole movement is a pretty big deal if it can live up to claims as well as the rigors of the real world.

Also, I am hoping that it solves some other issues with the 7750 such as excessive noise and vibration from a slightly sloppy ball bearing on the rotor. This is a signature element of the 7750, which some collectors actually enjoy as it makes you very sure you have a 7750 on your wrist because you can feel the rotor moving as you wear it.

However, to many collectors, that element is a large detractor from the 7750. It could be a very big side benefit if the NE88 is nice and quiet on the wrist.

Also, the 7750 has never been a particularly attractive movement, but it’s possible that the new NE88 might prove to be something brands will put a little effort into embellishing since it has a better chance of being appreciated with the column wheel and vertical clutch.

Beside these features, the NE88 seems to be a very comparable movement to the 7750 in terms of functions. And in terms of dimensions, the NE88 has a slight edge for being thinner (by 0.28 mm) and smaller in diameter (by 2.0 mm).

This allows even more freedom in designing for the NE88 because you have more room to work with and can make an even smaller timepiece than you could with a 7750.

While it is only a bit smaller, every millimeter counts when designing a timepiece for the wrist. A common issue for automatic chronographs has always been size and the NE88 may be highly appreciated by brands and collectors wanting a more wearable piece.

The first brand to use it

So who debuted it? And when will be your first chance to get your hands on a wristwatch containing an NE88 automatic column-wheel chronograph movement?

Well, those two questions are easy to answer. The lucky brand that had first dibs and one that is a known entity for this writer is none other than Vostok-Europe. In fact, have a look at my review of the Vostok-Europe Radio Room here.

What did I say? Yup, the first watch to hit the market powered by this awesome, new, and possible 7750 killer will be made by Vostok-Europe in honor of its tenth anniversary in 2014.

Inspired by the world’s largest aircraft, the AN-225 Mriya, the Vostok-Europe Mriya will be a 20 ATM diver in stainless steel coming at 50 mm diameter. Not a small watch by any means (look at its inspiration), but definitely a bold debut for a possibly game-changing movement.

Back of the Vostok-Europe Mrija chronograph with Seiko SII NE88 movement

I for one am very excited to see where the NE88 goes and how the market and the industry react to it. I am also very anxious to hear reports on the build quality, longevity, and overall quality of operation.

If things pan out, we may have a solid and affordable automatic column-wheel chronograph alternative that defies long-held beliefs that only the best comes from Switzerland.

There is also no doubt that the Swatch Group has the industry in a tight spot. This might be the movement that changes the future, and makes quality, affordable watches not a thing of the past.

It is definitely too soon to know, and time will tell, but I am one nerd writer who will be as excited about this as a kitten in a feather pillow factory!

Vostok-Europe Mrija chronograph with Seiko SII NE88 movement

Quick facts Vostok-Europe Mriya
Case: stainless steel, 50 mm
Movement: Caliber SII NE88, automatic column-wheel chronograph
Functions: hours, minutes, seconds; date, chronograph
Price: approx. $2,399
Limitation: 500 pieces, comes with two straps and a strap-changing tool

* This article was first published on June 29, 2014 at The Seiko SII NE88 Automatic Chronograph Movement: A Change In The Wind?

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    Alex says:

    February 15, 2017 at 7:24 pm

    Since then some more watches with NE88 appeared. I own Xicorr Syrena Sport with it and it’s been a pleasure, no issues and decent accuracy. I just wish chrono minutes and hours jumped like in 7750.

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      Bert Kanne says:

      February 16, 2017 at 4:06 am

      I also have the Xicorr Syrena Sport. No issues at all.

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      Joshua Munchow says:

      February 17, 2017 at 4:14 pm

      Great to hear that it’s having a good reception elsewhere, thanks for the info!

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    Sander says:

    February 15, 2017 at 9:11 pm

    There’s one problem that this movement has, though: it’s not made in Switzerland. While this is not what I have a problem with, but other people not familiar with Seiko will. Heck, the Swiss don’t even buy any A. Lange & Söhne because it is not made in Switzerland!!!

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      Joshua Munchow says:

      February 17, 2017 at 4:16 pm

      The only comment I will make is that if someone doesn’t buy A.Lange & Söhne because it isn’t Swiss, then they are probably the worst people to ask for advice about watches 🙂

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    IanE says:

    February 15, 2017 at 9:17 pm

    The Swiss often seem very complacent with respect to the Japanese – perhaps they should read up on what the Japanese did to the British motorcycle industry (a textbook example of complacency in action!).

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      Joshua Munchow says:

      February 17, 2017 at 4:21 pm

      The Swiss definitely have a tendency to tout tradition and historical skill more than no-nonsense innovation and practical engineering. But I don’t know if the Japanese can defeat the Swiss like they did the British when it comes to watches, mainly because the British had a rather spotty history of making cars and motorcycles that functioned event adequately (the electrical systems were notoriously iffy). The Swiss still make amazing watches, and the ETA movements found everywhere are still the industry workhorses for a reason. If anything I see the two diverting to make fundamentally different products. The Swiss might focus on exclusivity, the Japanese on practical usability. Only time will tell!

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    Alan says:

    February 15, 2017 at 10:42 pm

    Hi, great site with well written article. Just want to comment on what you said about decoration of the movement, I was under the impression that the NE88 is based on the 8R28 and is a modular movement with the chronograph module on the dial side, so the column wheel isn’t actually visible from the back

    That aside, it is great to see an affordable chronograph movement with all the top spec features normally only available to high end movements

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      Joshua Munchow says:

      February 17, 2017 at 4:34 pm

      Great comment! While the chronograph mechanics aren’t visible, the movement still features all of the mechanisms of higher-end chronos, so I would assume that, besides, using that as a selling point, any brands to use it might be more likely to dress it up with additional finishing. I know I would, since it would be one of the best ways to show that this isn’t your standard 7750 which normally doesn’t receive any extra finishing unless the movement is completely overhauled by the brand that is using it. As more brands use it, it will be interesting to see if this movement can go upmarket with added decoration.

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    Jvlyen says:

    February 16, 2017 at 5:47 pm

    The Swiss watch industry needs a Trump leadership to reestablish its greatness. Build a wall against the Japanese ?…sad

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    Steph says:

    February 16, 2017 at 9:57 pm

    “However, more important and eye-opening is the chronograph activation mechanism: a column wheel. Considered by the industry and collectors alike as a more highly coveted mechanism, thanks to its vertical clutch the column wheel offers a much smoother tactile feel than the harder click of the horizontal cam lever chronograph as used in the 7750.

    The NE88 employs a vertical clutch to avoid these issues, which goes toward creating a top-notch chronograph movement. Because a column-wheel chronograph is more complex to produce, more difficult to adjust and virtually impossible to service, it is a mechanism usually reserved for only the best chronographs on the market. So to find it as a standard feature on a reasonably-priced movement hoping to overtake the industry workhorse is a pretty big deal.”

    This article seems to conflate the concepts of the column wheel and vertical clutch – they are functionally orthogonal mechanisms. The column wheel controls the activation of the various chronograph functions (i.e. start/stop/reset). The clutch, whether horizontal or vertical, is what links the powered gear train to the chrono counters. Many chronos have column wheels, and a subset of these have vertical clutches. The inclusion of a column wheel (instead of a cam like on a 7750) does not affect the serviceability of the movement. Vertical clutches, on the other hand, are generally thought of as being non-serviceable though there are exceptions (such as the Rolex 4130).

    Some examples:
    Column wheel + vertical clutch = Seiko NE88, Rolex 4130, JLC 751
    Column wheel + horizontal clutch = Longines/ETA L688, Omega 321
    Cam-actuated + horizontal clutch = ETA 7750, Omega 1861

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      Joshua Munchow says:

      February 17, 2017 at 4:39 pm

      Good comment, and yes they are both just different ways to activate the chronograph mechanism. But after only one or two uses of each, the user can definitely tell that a column wheel with vertical clutch is simply nicer to use as the mechanism feels more precise and smooth. The cam activated mechanisms work great, but the feel is a bit less refined, so when going upmarket, the column wheel and vertical clutch make for more of a “value.” I think this is where the true value lies when considering that the NE88 is a competitor to the arguably more pedestrian 7750. Price point plays a huge role in the exceptional nature of the NE88, and why I am still so excited about it 2 years later!

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    Tim Treffry says:

    February 20, 2017 at 3:58 pm

    Nice article. Love the “better is better” expression.
    As an aside, my every day watch is a Seiko auto I’ve had since 1970 and used at least half the time since. Serviced twice by Seiko UK. Seiko make good watches.

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